Richard Jefferson joins Stefani for a Messy Talk! The 18 year NBA league veteran, NBA Champion, podcast host for Road Trippin’, color commentator, NCAA title runner up, on air host, Olympic bronze medalist shows up and tells us how he does what he does. He uses grown people language and keeps it real on where it started, how it’s going and what keeps him driving forward. With Richard, you always know it’s gonna be funny, can’t wait for you to hear how annoying he really is! Thanks for coming on Messy Talks you big time celeb!

We know it takes two to tango, but how much do we know about the delicate dance of interdependence? Pam speaks about the necessary and constant balancing act between dependence and independence that we all navigate throughout our lives.

Stefani is joined by Susie Walton again for her first Messy Talk season 2 appearance! What is it about the Holidays, that make struggles, disagreements and communication problems within a family dynamic so much more intense?! Have you ever found yourself dreading spreading the holiday cheer every year. You are in Luck! Sus gives us some tips, tools and tricks for how you can manage yourself, even if your family is not doing the same.

Do you confuse belonging with fitting in? Pam urges us to broaden our perspective of “belonging” with the loving reminder that “you belong wherever you’re willing to risk being seen”.

Candles and baths can be gratifying forms of self care, but what if we thought about it more holistically? Pam provides tools and insights about caring for ourselves mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically.

Do you have enough self trust to put your trust in others? Pam reveals the importance of self trust as a way to cultivate our sense of accountability, intuition, compassion, and boundary setting.

Do you know that your sensitivity is your superpower? Pam speaks about the wisdom of investigating your internal experience in order to connect back to the true essence of who you really are.

Are you in tune with your own needs enough to effectively show up for others? In part one of this two-part episode, Pam speaks to Matthew King about the wisdom of taking responsibility for your own behavior and the importance of meeting your own needs mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually.

Have you been taught your whole life that a mess is to be avoided? Or that it is a by-product of something gone wrong? Join Stefani as she explains her shift in perspective and beginning realization that the “messy” feeling is a sign that she was working towards a better understanding of ALL that she was capable of! Mental. Emotional. Spiritual. Self-reliance is literally a MESS. The MESS gets Messy, when YOU do the work…. Let’s get to work.

Do triggers show up to teach us more about ourselves? Pam speaks to Christy Deniston about the wisdom of looking at personal triggers as informative “gems” that can help us expand, heal and grow.

Is there wisdom to be found in the aftermath of divorce? Pam speaks to Glenn Goodstein about enduring the hardships, recovering, and rediscovering your true self after divorce.

What if the function of doubt is not to discourage, but rather to support us, strengthen us, and help us expand? What if “doubt” is not an enemy, but an ally? Pam reflects on her own experience with the unexpected wisdom of doubt.

Is there emotional safety in being your authentic self? Pam speaks to Amy Reed about her personal journey with coming out and the undeniable freedom that resides in living your truth.

Are there gaps between what you say you want and what you actually get? Pam speaks to the capacity we all have to change if only we’re willing to look inside.

Can you learn more about yourself in moments of upset? Pam speaks about triggers and upset as an opportunity to look inward and the wisdom we can find there.

What does it mean to “be yourself”? Pam speaks to Sparkle Simmons about the beauty of reconnecting to yourself and living outside the boxes that others create for you.